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Alan Hyde
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Posted: 06 May 2003

Yeh ok, so i'm excited about the vistit to Turkey on 18th May

Here's a couple of pics from last May--

Bufo Viridis -

As Seen Everywhere, Agamas

Naked Toed Gecko

Hyla Arborea

Two having Fun!!

A Scenery Shot . The Olympus Ruins where I saw V.Xanthina

And Finally , Can anyone ID this Lizard?

Cheers,

Alan

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Alan Hyde
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Posted: 06 May 2003

Oops, I think it's actually M.Xanthina now, not V.Xanthina.

Alan


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David Bird
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Posted: 06 May 2003
The Lizard pic looks like Ophisops elegans if it was also taken at Olympos it is possibly of the subspecies macrodactylus which is supposed to occur in that area. The eyes do not have moveable eyelids giving the common name of Snake eyed Lizard and a strange stare.
Where was the picture of the Naked fingered gecko taken Cyrtopodion kotschyi as my Turkish book does not show it living anywhere near the coast.
The idea of a set of photographs from different European holiday destinations is a very good one.
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GemmaJF
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Posted: 07 May 2003
fab pictures again Alan! Sounds like a good idea, do people want a forum for European species in the general section, I guess the threads might get missed here?
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Alan Hyde
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Posted: 07 May 2003

Good morning Gemma, David  , and Thanks .

Gemma- Well you know a forum for European species gets my vote, Yush Please.

David - Hi and thanks for the ID. Both the Snake eyed lizard, and Naked toed Gecko were seen about 20 minutes drive away from olympus at a place called 'Adrasan, or Cavus pronounced Shavush'. And both were right on the coast virtualy. I have seen two of these geckos there.

Here's a map showing where found. Both were in the area marked with the orange square infront of the arrow.

May I ask, which book is it you've got David?

Thanks,

Al


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David Bird
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Posted: 07 May 2003
     List of books coming shortly
              
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Tony Phelps
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Posted: 08 May 2003

I am off to Italy next month to do something with Vipera aspis and V.ursinii, and get some pix for the book. I shall be staying with Luca Luiselli who lives in Rome and I would like to go and have a look at the endemic (subspecies) of ruin lizard that lives and cohabits with feral cats at the Collossium; anybody know anything about it?

 

Cheers

 

Tony Phelps


David Bird
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Posted: 09 May 2003
Tony, dont know why there should be a subspecies endemic to a part of Rome most of the subspecies are endemic to the islands. Have not heard of anything different. As far as I know the 2 subspecies on mainland Italy are Podarcis sicula campestris the norhern part and Podarcis sicula sicula in the southern part. Rome has P.s.sicula but the best person to ask would be an Italian herpetologist such as Claudia Corti for the most up to date information
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Mike
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Posted: 09 May 2003

Tony,

I have been to that part of Rome several times including the Collosseo but I was not into Reptiles and the like then.  Some parts of the Collosseo were open to the public but I suspect that you will need some form of permission to get into the off limits areas.

There are other areas (ruins) in Rome that are more remote to the public even in the city center, these should be better for viewing Lizards, but for the life of me I can't remember where, I'll have to get my Rome map out.

Feral cats were everywhere !.

Enjoy!, I am most envious, a beautiful city.

 


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Posted: 10 May 2003

Below is the list of Books that I and the BHS library have on Turkish and N.Cyprus Reptiles and Amphibians. A few can be obtained from specialist book dealers in this country

Baran,I. & Atat³r,M. 1998 Turkish herpetofauna 214 p Ministry of Environment  Ankara English colour plates

Baran,I.,Coad,B. & Huru,M.  1986 Zoological Bibliography of Turkey  Pisces,Amphibia, Reptilia . 118 p. M.Kasparek  German & English

Basoglu,M. & Ízeti,N  1973 Amphibians of Turkey 135 p. Ege ³niv.fen fak³ltresi kitaplar ser. 50  Turkish, English summary

Baski,I.  2001 Amphibians & Reptiles of N Cyprus 63 p Ege ³niv. fen fac³ltesi kitaplar ser 170  Turkish & English  http://bornova.ege.edu.tr/~bgocmen/herptiles_cyprus.html  to see the plates in better quality

 Basoglu,M. & Baran,I.  1977 Reptiles of Turkey Pt 1 Turtles & Lizards 272 p. Ege ³niv.fen fak³ltresi kitaplar ser. 76  Turkish, English summary

Basoglu,M. & Baran,I.  1980 Reptiles of Turkey Pt 2 Snakes 218 p. Ege ³niv.fen fak³ltresi kitaplar ser. 81  Turkish, English summary

Demirsoy,A. 1996  T³rkiye Omurgalilari  Amfibiler 69 p Cevre Bakanligi  In Turkish  Black and white photos good distr,maps

Demirsoy,A. 1996  T³rkiye Omurgalilari  S³r³ngenler( Reptiles)  205 p Cevre Bakanligi  In Turkish  Black and white photos good distr,maps

 

David Bird


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Alan Hyde
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Posted: 08 Mar 2006
Just booked up again , will be flying out June 4th

This thread will have some fresh pics
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- A taste of Turkey

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